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Bankotsu-sama
Ok, why the hell doesnt Inuyasha eat every Shikon Shard that they find???

First off they never would have lost any this way, Secondly he would get stronger for every single one that he ate.

Look what just 2 shards does for Kouga, hes like 3 times stronger with just 2.

Iy would have over half the jewel in him if he just ate them each time they got them. He doesnt even have to eat them really he could but pieces in his arms legs head and chest.

It would be pretty cool if this ever started to happen, say each piece brings him closer to being a full demon as he gradually transforms with each one he gets.

This way he might look almost as cool as his brother, but even with the full jewel i doubt he would be able to take Sesshoumaru.
Cyberhunter
At first i thik he probably would have used the shards to get stronger but Kagome probably wouldnt have let him...
Now i dont think that he would want to use BECAUSE of the fact that it would bring him closer to being full demon...
Dont you remember when Tetsuaiga broke? After the first couple times fo transforming he didnt want to ever do it again...
At least taht is my oponion why he wouldnt use them tongue.gif
Marcus Slade
I think the reason, at least at first, was a combination of Kagome wouldn't let him, and that he's kinda full of himself, no da. He wants the Shikon no Tama to become a full youkai, but thinks that he's plenty strong as is to take on any normal youkai. Unfortunately, since this is often true, it would be kinda hard to dissuad him, ne?
Seijiro
Do any of you remember Miroku's little lecture?

Did ANY of the demons that used the power of the shards turn out good? They all were corrupted into evil demons.

Kouga is probably a storyline acception but for the most part he is a wolf demon who is an odd fellow to understand.

Kouga does have evil in his heart because he used to feed humans to his wolves, he doesnt care about the lives of others except his wolf kin, etc.
Whoami88
Most people tend to forgot that Kouga and his wolves slaughtered an entire village.
Bankotsu-sama
Kouga hasnt done anything evil in about 84 episodes, Also when Sesshoumaru used the shard it doesnt change him at all.

Kouga is a 100pct Good Guy The shards do nothing evil towards him and they would do nothing evil to IY.

Nobody has given me a decent answer for why he wouldnt use them yet, The only good answer is that he would kill Naraku real fast and the show would be over unless they came up with a new main bad guy.
Cyberhunter
QUOTE(Bankotsu-sama @ Jul 30 2003, 02:28 AM)
Nobody has given me a decent answer for why he wouldnt use them yet,  The only good answer is that he would kill Naraku real fast and the show would be over unless they came up with a new main bad guy.

Isn't that a good enough reason right there? Who would want a new villin after naraku?Also as far as not using them i agree with marcus, he has to much pride to use them.

And about Kouga...we only got to see him destry 1 human village...nobody knows how many he destroyed before we saw him unsure.gif and since he didnt even feel bad about it i think that number is pretty high blink.gif
UFO9
QUOTE(Bankotsu-sama @ Jul 29 2003, 10:28 PM)
Kouga hasnt done anything evil in about 84 episodes,  Also when Sesshoumaru used the shard it doesnt change him at all.

Kouga is a 100pct Good Guy The shards do nothing evil towards him and they would do nothing evil to IY.

Nobody has given me a decent answer for why he wouldnt use them yet

First of all, if not for Kagome, Kouga would still be using his shards for evil purposes, the only reason he doesn't still hunt humans is because of Kagome. This has been stated flat out, in that episode where he had the run-in with Sesshoumaru.

Second, just because the shards don't actually make someone evil ,they do have evil events following them. Think about it. Everyone who has had any relation with the shards has suffered. Kikyo died because of it, Inuyasha was pinned to the tree because of it, Kagome is always in danger and forced to travel back in time, I'm pretty sure that's why Shippou's father was killed, I also believe is was a indirect cause of Sango's village being destroyed (they had originally guarded it, and it came from near her town), almost all the demons that have hunted for or had shards have been killed, anyone holding shards is in danger of being attacked. Kouga's tribe was being attacked by those birds over the shards. Even Sesshoumaru had a bad run-in, when the shard in the human arm tried taking over his body.

As has been pointed out in the series, nothing good has ever come from using the shikon no tama.

If Inuyasha did use it, it would increase his power, but he and the rest of the group know the consequences. There's a good chance it would backfire and cause more problems than benefits. Add to that the fact that he's only a hanyou, and his body would most likely be incapable of properly handling all the extra power. We've already seen what happens when he transforms to full demon mode. He's probably afraid that would happen if he used the shards, he'd go insane and start killing indiscriminately again.

So... yeah... in a nutshell, the shard doesn't necessarily make people evil, it just has very bad events that follow it's usage around, and Inuyasha's hanyou body wouldn't be able to handle the strain of the added power.

There's my reasons.
Patrioil
I think Inuyasha is scared ofe using him,
because if they turned him into a demon,
he may lose his heart, just as Miroku said.
And even if IY thought that he's different,
he still don't wanna endanger Kagome. ^^

And there's another much better reason:
Kagome: "OSUWARI OSUWARI OSUWARI!!"
And there's a chance the shards could be polluted,
so Kagome purifies them while carrying them...
Zontos
QUOTE(Cyberhunter @ Jul 29 2003, 10:57 PM)
Isn't that a good enough reason right there? Who would want a new villin after naraku?Also as far as not using them i agree with marcus, he has to much pride to use them.

And about Kouga...we only got to see him destry 1 human village...nobody knows how many he destroyed before we saw him unsure.gif  and since he didnt even feel bad about it i think that number is pretty high  blink.gif

if you think about it... that might have been the first village they attacked. it may have been in reaction to limited food sources since those bird things started taking over all their land. They most likely ate all of the wolf clans normal food and forced them to seek food elsewhere. This happens normaly in nature espicialy with animals likes wolfs. Loss of habbitat has always been a major cause of animal and human mixing.

Even if they did eat humans on a normal basis.... they would not have killed the entire village of them due to the fact that after that the'd all go hungry and die. So if human was their main food then they would have only ate a few people at a time and semi co-existed with them. Kinda like vampires and humans, if they ate us all they'd be screwed.

So you are saying he is evil because he thinks he has the right to live and maintain his life? I think not. If you are hungry you must seek food, or die.

I think they went into GREAT detail to point out that he was in fact more wolf then "human." You can't label a predatory animal "evil" because its only following nature.
Xelkotsu
Cause it's gonna give Shippou the right to pluck them out after they collect it all. Inuyasha would never let the lil brat do something like that. Nor the flea.
Ozymen
hmmmmnnn... a point noone spoted...
did anyone realise how stronger that guy (whats his name?)
"he-who-vomits-wolves" protector of the forest guy, became after
gradually gettin a couple of shard on him?

it must be different with each individuall...
but indeed IY shouldnt try eating or using any of it
for he will turn EVIL!!!!
MUAhAhAHAHAHAHAha
Marcus Slade
Keep in mind that both the shard that allowed Sessh to use a human arm and the ones that were given to the forest protector (I think his name started with an R) were given to them by Naraku. Naraku even admitted that the one that he gave to Sessh had a little trap on it to ensure it would be returned to him. I think that the shards were originally somewhat pure (from being near Kikyou, then being carried around inside Kagome for 15 years) and when they were scattered, it depends on who found them.

Kouga, while not caring about humanity in general (why should he, he's not human), cares a lot about Kagome, so he has stopped killing humans he doesn't have to, in order to impress her. The fact that he wasn't nor is now trying to conquer or kill everything means that the shards aren't being further tainted from being on his person. Probably staying relatively balanced, I think.

Also remember what Kagome was told originally, that both youkai and humans who wanted power would be seeking the Shikon no Tama, so I don't see Inuyasha being a hanyou being a problem when it comes to using the shards.
Bankotsu
i hope u do know that if the wearer of a shikon shard is good (inuyasha) then the shard wont be corrupted, like inuyasha said they were evil to begin with
Snowblind
they state in the show that the shikon shards can not be used for any good perpose, infact that the shard pervert that perpose and turns it evil, i dont know why that hasnt happened to kouga but oh well
Spectrum
QUOTE(Marcus Slade @ Jul 29 2003, 10:06 PM)
I think the reason, at least at first, was a combination of Kagome wouldn't let him, and that he's kinda full of himself, no da.  He wants the Shikon no Tama to become a full youkai, but thinks that he's plenty strong as is to take on any normal youkai.  Unfortunately, since this is often true, it would be kinda hard to dissuad him, ne?

I think that's the closest to the actual reason out of all the theories here. In the past, we've seen that Inuyasha holds very little respect for youkai that rely on shikon shards for strength (look at how he treats Kouga). He prides himself on fighting without any help, especially since he's only a hanyou. For that reason alone, I doubt he'd ever use a shikon shard to help him fight.

The second most likely reason is that Inuyasha hates being screwed around with, and after seeing what's happened to so many other demons (and humans) who've attempted to use the shards, I doubt he's very eager to try one out for himself. No doubt bad memories of transforming into full youkai also have a lot to do with this. Sure, Kouga's been more or less unaffected, but look at everyone else--would you really risk doing something yourself when hundreds of others done the same with bad results, just because one person turned out okay? I wouldn't.

The last reason is probably like Patrioil said: "OSUWARI! OSUWARI! OSUWARI!" No way he's going to risk that. tongue.gif
Patrioil
QUOTE(Spectrum @ Jul 30 2003, 11:45 PM)
I think that's the closest to the actual reason out of all the theories here.  In the past, we've seen that Inuyasha holds very little respect for youkai that rely on shikon shards for strength (look at how he treats Kouga).  He prides himself on fighting without any help, especially since he's only a hanyou.  For that reason alone, I doubt he'd ever use a shikon shard to help him fight.

Yeah, Kouga has the shard in his legs to be stronger,
but Inuyasha got the Tetsusaiga - which is pretty powerfull.
He doesn't really need to rely on some stupid shards,
when the most youkai with shards he have met,
have all been beaten by his sword (well, not all of em).
Why use something that may endanger him and the others,
when he got a pretty neat sword to tease Sesshoumaru with?

hehehe... poor Sesshoumaru-sama... hehehehe...
Midnightsg
I think the reason is… well kinna simple really. blink.gif

Why are they getting all the shards? To put them back together. How is that possible if they are all in Inu’s body. And in the end when they are all together then InuYasha will use them to become whatever or give them to Kagome to make her be a ˝ demon.
(That would be kinna creepy -.o)
The whole show is not based on them beating Naraku, it is on them finding the shards and putting them back together. Remember the 1st few episodes/Mangas? They would kinna be defeating the whole point of the show if Inu just sucks in every shard he finds… and he would end up doing the Goku thing and just get lame after the 14th power up. dry.gif
Who_me?
I always thought that Inuyasha never used any shards because half demons could not use them to enhance their strength, only to become full human or demon. This, to me, seems like a much more plausible explanation than others.

I have always thought this because I have yet to see any half-youkai use a shard to enhance their strength. Not Naraku, or even one of his detachments, if memory serves (correct?). I could see why Naraku would not give Kagura one, but Goshinki would have probably killed Inuyasha and his whole party with only a few, if he could use them.

I also see no reason why Kagome would allow Kouga to use shards but not Inuyasha, or why Inuyasha would use his Tessaiga to fight more strongly but not a shard (especially since lately he never seems strong enough to keep bad guys away from Kagome, et al.).

Maybe I missed something though. What do you guys think?
Bankotsu
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they state in the show that the shikon shards can not be used for any good perpose, infact that the shard pervert that perpose and turns it evil


hmm remember what they said when the tama was created, tha the soul of the miko and the oyukai she fought were entrapped in the tama and continued their battle in there

when someone evil has it then the youkai get stronger and when someone good has it the miko gets stronger

QUOTE
I always thought that Inuyasha never used any shards because half demons could not use them to enhance their strength, only to become full human or demon. This, to me, seems like a much more plausible explanation than others.


if they are hanyou or youkai shouldnt matter, aslong as they have youkaiblood in them they should be able to tap into the shikon no tamas power
Mr.Monkey
no1 has ever seen a hanyou use it for some reason so you can NEVER know the truth!

I thought it was cause NON OF THEM ever thought of giving inuyasha them, because they arn't smart and all. Maybe its cause its differnt for 1 shasrd then the whole thing. Whole Shikon no tama = controlled power and shards arn't? So you can never tell what it will do thus might turn inuyasha into a crazed serial killer (that would livin it up a bit right?)
Seijiro
Sesshoumaru didn't seem effected by the shards because he already has a semi-evil heart but not nessesarally that...

Sesshoumaru is (in my opinion) high held with family pride and pride in being a full demon.

Also, he has a very strong will, does anyone remember the episode where he controlled the aura of Tokijin while the IY crew were going to take the next few weeks to build a shrine around it?

But anyways, the shards I believe will interact with whatever is in your heart but I believe the demon inside the shikon no tama feasts on the evil in the users heart to use it to his advantage.

Also the miko side of the ball, was used once (kagome in the well vs the centipied when she disintigrated its arm).

Perhaps the good side of the ball can only be used by miko's, I DO remember the series also stating that no normal human can use it but Kikyou could.
Bankotsu
QUOTE
no1 has ever seen a hanyou use it for some reason so you can NEVER know the truth!


well we have seen a priest use it but that wasnt a real shikon no tama

this might explain it

"If it was to be used to do evil, it's demonic powers from the demon's souls would increase and it would be indestructable, but if it was used to do good, it would be purified and would be likely to vanish forever."
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