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Bificommander
I was wondering why the Kaze no Kizu is so much weaker now. I mean, Seshoumaru blew up an entire mountain with it, now it can't even blow up Genkotsu or Bankotsu's sword. Is it simply for the sake of the story (no fun if it always works) or is there a reason for it. My best guess is that Inu Yasha's technique of using the energy around the sword itself (from in ep 54 or something) instead of using an enemies energy (as he did before ep 54) means you can use Kaza no Kizu everywhere, but it's also weaker. Anyone has any other thoughts about this?
Patrioil
Well... maybe the opponents are a little stronger now.
And the blowing up a mountain thing Sesshoumaru-sama did,
was maybe the Shikon shard who boosted Tetsusaiga's powers a little.
And maybe Tetsusaiga is harder to use on allready dead people.
The only way IY had a chance attacking Bankotsu in ep. 113,
was because of the polluted aura (or the youki) of his Shikon shards.
hm... but I don't think he actually got to attack him, though...
SaNkOn-TeSsOu
no, he could do the Kaze No Kizu with or with out the polluted aura of the Shikon Shards, what he was concerned about in ep 113 was his ability to do the Bakuruyaha, it can only work against demonic energies.......
Bankotsu-sama
Bificommander, the answer to your question is that whenever some new special move is unveiled in any anime its a hell of a lot stronger than it will be 10-20 episodes down the road.

It will always start off unstopable and them guys start coming along that it doesnt do much of anything against them.
If you ask me its about time IY learned some new moves anyway, its tiring watching swords clang and never hit anybody and then IY gets mad and goes Kaza no Kizu every time, he should find someone to teach him some new tactics.

Maybe his older bro could give him a few pointers.......
bakadeshi
The Kaze no Kizu is an attack just like any other...it has its strengths and weaknesses. From what we've seen, it works by slicing through the point where two opponent's youki clash--releasing a hell of a lot of energy in that direction. After ep 54 though, the sword gained the added ability of using its own internal youki to send out the energy attack--thus, not depending on its opponent's youki. The way I see it, this is probably leads to a lesser attack strength. When Sesshoumaru blew up the mountain, he was attacking 100 lesser demons...their youki against his, and he's a taiyoukai. So the attack was damn powerful. Likewise, you'll notice the Kaze no Kizu does a hell of a lot more damage in episodes where Inuyasha is using it on lots of opponents at once.

However, that isn't to say the attack is infallible. Bankotsu is human, for instance, so Inuyasha was probably using Tessaiga's internal energy to hit him with the Kaze no Kizu. Also, although it's a hella powerful energy beam, the Kaze no Kizu does move in a straight line happy.gif; I'd imagine a smart fighter would learn how to dodge or parry it if they survived seeing it the first time. Hence, we see Sesshoumaru go *through* the Kaze no Kizu to kick Inuyasha's ass in ep 96. (And it's about damn time, I might add...I like Inuyasha and all, but he was getting a bit too overpowered there. Or maybe that's just my Sesshoumaru bias talking happy.gif)
SaNkOn-TeSsOu
who asked you baka! tongue.gif Inuyasha is way better than that big fluffy tail guy tongue.gif
Xepheus
I personally believe yasha needs another special move happy.gif
It's about time he gets one... they all should! smile.gif
You know... you can only do the same special move for what 80+ eps.... sleep.gif ...until it gets boring! tongue.gif

-Xepheus
Bificommander
That's my theory too bakadeshi. But I wondered about something else: Seshoumaru didn't seem to have to slice a specific spot. I mean, when Inu Yasha used the Kaze no Kizu (and when we were able to see the youki ourselfs) he always had to be at a specific distance (he had to slice about halfway at the distance between him and his opponent). Remember how Goushinki moved forward, through the spot where Inu Yasha had to slice, thus foiling his plan (and biting through tessaiga after that). Seshoumaru seemed to be able to slice anywhere he wanted. Also, he used a weak version of it on Kagome (Inu shielded her, but he wasn't there when he attacked) and she's human, so no youki from her, and she wasn't using the Shikon shard's power either (she HAD them, but she didn't USE them). So maybe Seshoumaru was also able to use the internal energy of Tessaiga. Then there would be no reason at all for it to be weaker now, except the strong-opponent-inflation. Pity, but oh well.
And I agree that the gang should get more moves. Some suggestions: An attack that uses both tesseiga and tenseiga (that would make sense too, a little gift from daddy if Seshoumaru and Inu Yasha learned to cooperate), a better boomerang for Sango (have toutosai make it, using another fang from Inu Yasha, then we would finally be rid of the fact that it bounces of every enemy that matters) and a whole lot of new powers for Kagome (Kikyo has plenty of other powers, why not have Kagome get some of those. Perhaps a new, better bow too. Something like that)
Patrioil
First of all, I think the Shikon shard boosted Tetsusaiga.
And second, Sesshoumaru-sama aimed at that big youkai,
you know, the one with those big round red eyes. I liked him.
The Sesshoumaru-sama attacking Kagome... hm...
I still think it's mostly because of the Shikon shard in that arm.
And it wasn't as strong when aiming at Kagome,
since that big youkai was really BIG... if anyone remember him?

I also think they should get some new attack.
Though I remember Ranma in Ranma½ didn't have more than 3,
and still it became one of the worlds most popular manga.

Nekoken - Ranma's first attack... I'm still laughing while thinking of it. laugh.gif
Amaguriken - Hitting one's opponent with 100 punches per second. cool
Hiryuu Shouten Ha - Another cool attack which looks a little like Bakuryuuha...

He had some more attacks, but he only used them like once.
These three were some standard moves for Ranma.
Pale_Rider
I think the whole premise is that he's just facing stronger/smarter characters as the show progresses. They even make Sesshoumaru stronger by giving him that evil demon sword. Remember when Inuyasha used the Kaze no Kizu on him the 1st time, it almost killed him. But in the later eps, he cuts right through the attack and whacks IY. blink.gif

All in all, I think it's been handled very well. And I'm just happy the show hasn't turned into another mindless fest of "let's create a new enemy that's twice as strong as the last dude w/ semi-god-like powers, and let's give the hero some corny new super attack so he can beat him." Not everyone is a fan of DBZ (or even Kenshin to a degree). tongue.gif
Bificommander
Neither am I. But on the other hand, having the gang do the same sort of thing over and over again get's dull too. It's not really a problem for series that last for just one season (24-26 eps) , but for a 100+ series, SOME advancement would be good, to keep things interesting. Ofcourse, they took this too far in DBZ, but one new power now and then for one of the characters would be good. As I said before, I suggest making Kagome more powerfull, and having a contest between her miko powers and that raisin monk's power (I like Inu Yasha's name for him happy.gif)
Vlion
Good ole Inu isalot weaker than Sess.
Frankly, its the difference between a 16 year old and a 30-something year old.
Naturally Kaze is a great deal stronger in Sess's hands- Sess has powers that make Inu's raw attacks(Sankon Tessou, etc) look like childs play.
Luana-neko
QUOTE(Vlion @ Jul 10 2003, 08:33 PM)
Good ole Inu isalot weaker than Sess.
Frankly, its the difference between a 16 year old and a 30-something year old.
Naturally Kaze is a great deal stronger in Sess's hands- Sess has powers that make Inu's raw attacks(Sankon Tessou, etc) look like childs play.

As big a fan as I am of Inu Yasha, I have to admit you're right on that point... Even though Inu Yasha seems to get the upper hand when they fight each other (although that's questionable now with Sess' kick-ass sword), Sess always manages to make his fights look sooooo much easier than Inu Yasha (even against the same opponents). Granted, some of that's style, but there's a fair ability and power difference as well.
Raven_Zero
Yeah the Kaze no kizu does seem weaker, but I think it's because of the way he uses it(as in not using the wound of the wind or whatever it's called.). Currently he just swings it and it fires(no Skill at all).
Kagome-sama
hey hey hey!~ I wouldn't go far enough to say that is requires "no skill" he has been practicing since he got Kaze no Kizo to be able to fire it at will. Now he is able to and you criticize the anime for it? Sheesh. dry.gif
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