This has always bothered me...

In episode 17 you find out that Miroku (just met him in Episode 16) has 2 or 3 shikon shards. They appear to either be in his right shoulder, or maybe just under his clothes.

After we see this, they are never brought up again. No one ever mentions Miroku having shards, not even when they talk about the shards other people have, like Kagome, and Kouga in his legs, and Kohaku in his back.

It nevers gets mentioned again as far as I know, if I am wrong, please someone tell me. Because it seems to me that the author just totally forgot about the fact that he has 3 or so shards.

~LA~

those were the shards that he took from kagome. He gave them back. And I think he had a few that he gave her as well.

Yes! I'm so glad someone else has noticed this!

I brought it up a while ago in another thread (here--scroll down the page, it's there toward the bottom) and there still hasn't been a reasonable answer to the question as far as I'm concerned.

I really want to know what happened to them too. ::sigh::

I could be mistaken but didn't Kikyo help Kagome to form the shards into a chunk of the jewel when they were in the cave that kikyo was traped in while Inuyasha was fighting the demon, I don't remember whis episode that was.

Episode 32 i believe

After Kikiyo stole Kogome's semi-tama piece doesn't she mention something about going home? And then she says (all a voice over on a preview I think) "Miroku, can I borrow yours?" or something to that effect.

Maybe she took his and just never game them back.

he gave her his shikon shards since she and kikyou are the only two that can touch and purify corrupted shikon shards

Everyone keeps saying he gave Kagome his shards. But I've been keeping track of how many shards Kagome has during the more recent runs on CN (ever since this whole thing occurred to me) and when Kikyou steals Kagome's shards in episode 33, the only shards she takes are the ones Kagome already had. There aren't any extra there, and if Miroku had given his to her, there would be.

Is there a specifc scene where we actually see Miroku give Kagome his shards? Or some reference to it that I missed somewhere? Otherwise, as far as I know, Miroku still has his shards, which would be a pretty big oversight on Takahashi's part.

I thought he only had the one shard he got from the weasel. I'd imagine that he gave her his once he seen that she could purify them.

Either way how do you figure he had more then that one?

Cuz Kagome says she sees 3 shards on his person (the Hell's Ink episode I believe)

I've been wondering about that. Also, what happened to the shard that Sango had?

Naraku took em after the youkai assault on her village

Spectrum, you have a very good point on that other post, and after I read it I do recall thinking the same thing at the time.

This beats the Kagome borrowing them to go home theory, because that whole dream trap thing was BEFORE the Kagome's shards were stolen, or at least before she'd need them to go home.

I sure hope the author didnt forget about this... but the fact that this scenario wasn't in the manga at least gives me a little hope.

~LA~

I think Rumiko has everything pretty much thought out...
so we should not rely on what the anime says and do.
I have a vague memory about Miroku handing over the shards...
but it could just be my delusion. Or Kagome gave them back...?
Maybe this thing will be sorted out a little further ahead.

It sounds important but honestly, its not. I am sure by now Miroku would have given any shards he had to Kagome becuz they are a team, and if Sango had one from her back im sure she would give it to. Just dont dig so deep into the show...

I meant the shard that Sango had when she was being controlled by Naraku.

If I'm correct, doesn't that Kugutsu/puppet of Naraku make the shard come out of Sango's back and then swipes it? Right when it looks like she's going to attack him? Episode 25.

I haven't seen that episode for a while, so I can't be sure, but didn't they destroy that kugutsu and regain the shard? I know Kagome mentions Sango having a shard at least once in the dub (though I don't think it was in the original version).

In the dub, Kagome borrows Sango's shard after Kikyo takes all of Kagome's shards.

Speaking of shards, something I never understood. Why the hell did Kikyo give Naraku all those shards? I know she said something about once he completes it, she's going to send him to hell, I think in episode 33. Won't it be a little frickin hard to if the guy is so powerful that he could probably kill u in one blow, presuming that Naraku would be that powerful with the whole Shikon No Tama. Though he could probably easily kill Kikyo as is.

Power wise i dont think there is a doubt that he could kill Kikyo...
But the Onigumo part of him wont allow it...That is why he tried to get rid of it some time ago(dont remember what episode)...Without Onigumo i fiugre Kikyo would of been dead..(redead?) along time ago

I think her plan is to wait until Naraku uses the full Tama to wish himself into a full demon, and then she'll purify him. Though I don't really see why she can't do that now, either... whether he's half-demon or not, she's powerful enough that she could probably purify him easily even now. Eh... Kikyou can be pretty bizarre sometimes. ::shrug::

when u wish for something using the tama it disappears afterwards so my guess is her plan is that naraku wishes to become a youkai and then when the tama is gone she will die so that means no kikyou and no tama

no tama = no dangers

Hey, that's a good point. Naraku's collecting all of the shikon shards may actually be a blessing in disguise, since the jewel is so dangerous. Imagine how long it would have taken to gather all the shards without him... thirteen episodes into the series, Inuyasha and Kagome had only found six shards on their own.

The way I see it, it's just like Inuyasha said early in the series: let Naraku do the work for them. Only whereas Inuyasha might not have been strong enough to take on Naraku if he got the full Tama (as Shippou reminded him), Kikyou could likely purify him as easily then as now.

When the Shikon no Tama is whole again,
which I think will happen in the end. ^^
Naraku will more than likely absorb it...
Then Kagome just have to purify it within him,
just as long as she can get the Miko powers to work,
otherwise Kikyou will do it for her... I hope not.
And as the Tama is purified, so will Naraku.
Naraku will die, and end of story... ^_~

I dont really think its that easy, Naraku is more then most youkai can handle..the only reason inuyasha can come near him is cuz tetsusaiga has a barrier ripper

and dont forget that when the tama is in the hands of naraku he will only need to wish and it will disappear for itself, he wont have to absorb it so my theory is that purifying it is not an option

the only thing that is probably strong enough to take him down when he goes youkai is the bakuryuuha

Who said anything about having to purify the tama? Once Naraku is a full youkai it should be easy enough to purify him. And the fact that there won't be a jewel to worry about is just a nice bonus.

Not that I think things will actually work out that way. I just think that's Kikyou's reasoning for giving Naraku pieces of the jewel, that's all. When it comes to dealing Naraku the final blow, it's gotta be Inuyasha who does the deed, not Kagome or Kikyou... it wouldn't seem right otherwise.

Who said you wished for things...?
Sure they mention it, in a filler...

But Kikyou said that it had to be used,
or at least she implied that you had to.
When you use the Shikon no Tama,
it will dissapear. But wishing...?
I don't think it's like that really.
Maybe it's just me... but that's the way it goes.
Naraku: "I wish I were the strongest youkai!"
THAT's wishing! And I don't think that'll happen...

anyways, did I make any sense...?

I don't remember Miroku actually ever giving Kagome his shards, but I agree that it is a safe assumption that he gave them to her for some reason. Also, she did ask him to lend her a shard so that she could go home. Did anyone else think about the time Inuyasha pushed her through and she didn't have any shards on her? So I guess she doesn't need them to return to her own time, just to travel back in time.

In one of the recent episodes (filler I think) Kagome is taking stock of all the shards that they know of. She mentions the one in Kohaku, the ones Kouga has, the big chunk that Naraku has and I think she had 2 at the time (one that was 3 pieces fused together with Kikyou's help, I think?). Can't remember if there were any others mentioned, but I noticed right away that Miroku's were not!!!! mentioned.

i thought that when she took back the shards he stole from her she took his as well

there was a scene with a really corrupted shikon shard in it, and miroku was all like, "better not touch that" and then kagome just grabs it and purifies it. i think miroku realized that kagome should hold his too since they were traveling together. someone said that they counted the number of shards and she didnt get his??? if it wasnt in the manga is it possible it was overlooked in the anime?