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UFO9
I hope this is ok to go here, I thought this would be the best place to ask.

Does anyone know if it's possible to get viruses using Bit Torrent, and has anyone had a problem with 112?

I'm asking because I finished downloading ep 112 a little while ago, using Bit Torrent (only took about 30 hours sleep.gif) and I was watching it in Media Player but it was acting kinda chopy, so I switched to the Divx Player. About 3/4 or so of the way through, my computer froze, so I restarted and tried again, skipping to the place I'd left off, and it froze again, so I restarted again. It took forever to boot, so I just reset it in hopes it was just being buggy (all other mentions of "restart" were actually hitting the reset button). It took forever again, and when it did load, I got some message about the computer restoring it's system registry, and then nothing would load. I get my desktop background and nothing else. I tried running explorer.exe from the Task Manager, and it won't. Not in regular mode, safe mode, or system restore mode, and the system restore option doesn't work either. sad.gif

I'm just wondering if this happened to anyone else who got 112, to see if maybe it is a virus, or if my computer is just throwing a hissy fit for some reason.

I'm especially sad because after 2 days of downloading, I didn't even get to watch the whole episode before my computer spazzed out.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. unsure.gif
Ozymen
Hmmmm first of all, i dont think an Avi can carry a virus,
but i can tell you i have no idea what this initial .torrent file contains
or how it is read by your PC when your dload is about to begin...

Personally i had no problems, and for ppl not already to be complaining
about it you could say that probly noone else does...

about DivX player, that thing is so unstable... i woulnd worry if it is only that

my own guess is that soemthin happened at the same time, (or a little
before, i mean, if you had a virus, the process of infection would have
started long b4 that...) and this coincidence caused you to think that...

why dont you use an antivirus to track down the problem for you?
it will even tell you the original file the virus came out from... (if there is
a virus in the first place)
I recomend Norton antivirus 2003
Patrioil
In the days of yore I used to play all my avi files on Real One Player,
then I noticed that it started to chop more and more.
So I just swiched over to DivX... it's much easier... So do that.
SuperRob1
Not an expert, however Bit Torrent is basically file that is Donwloaded to hosts. Then those hosts also in turn can be downloaded from. The file must be the same, that is way they have the CRC value for you to check. If the file is changed it would not match the file that came from the orginal Host that started the Torrent file.

The one thing to do is make sure you have all the proper codec's installed on your machine to watch your favorite Anime. I have had Media Player get choppy, blurred images, cracking noises or just plain freeze. So happen when I didn't have all the right codec's.


I think you need Divx 5.5 to watch the Inuyasha eps now.

As to the rest of you troubles you try windows update. OR update your Media player to latest version.
UFO9
QUOTE(Ozymen @ Jun 11 2003, 12:49 AM)
why dont you use an antivirus to track down the problem for you?
it will even tell you the original file the virus came out from... (if there is
a virus in the first place)
I recomend Norton antivirus 2003

I've tried. The problem is, without explorer running, it's really hard to find and run programs, and for some reason Norton refuses to open. I wanted to run a check last night, but everytime I tried to run it, it would close again.

Thanks though, like you said, no one else has complained, so it must just be a coincidence.
CrazyInuyasha
Honestly, who knows...

You could have gotten a virus many places.

Around Christmas, I had dled 50+ episodes of Inu and I had to format my harddrive becuase of a virus. It doesn't sound like you are having virus problems though, but I would recommend that you get the latest Norton Anti-virus and firewall (2003). At the time I got a virus, I had an older version of Norton running and it did not catch a thing! One bad thing about the 2003 anti-virus/firewall is that it hogs alot of resources, but I think it is worth it when it's protecting 40 gigs of anime.

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Bankotsu-sama
i doubt you have a virus anyway, if you do it didnt come from the sites bittorent file so i wouldnt worry about that just upgrade to the divx 5.5 and use the divx player for IY episodes

And jeez it took you 30 hours to download that IY episode that sucks, took me 30 mins i was getting it at like 300kb a second off the bittorent.
CrazyInuyasha
Bankotsu-

Where do you use the bittorrent?
Bankotsu-sama
I just take the one off the animeforever site every time never takes me more than 1 and a half hours to get a full episode of there.

I only have cable internet but it goes very nicely everytime.
Patrioil
My bittorrent is on 45 kb/sec or 80 kb/sec.
Ep. 112 of Inuyasha took me less then 2 hours to get.
I have cable internet... but the speed differs from day to day.
Often I can get an IY fast from Anime Forever,
and when it's slow it takes me about 4 hours... but that's unusual.
But I must say that BT is a little slow sometimes...
but maybe it has to do with where you download from?
Emule takes forever, but at least it works! I spit on Kazaa!!
Ozymen
PPL PPL... for standard home users, a firewall is a complete useless
to get, and a complete waste of CPU efficiency... and to top all that,
it causes trouble with your comunications and connections to places
and stuff... even if you got it configured down to the last little detail...

Just get the antivirus, and scan all executable files.exe, .bin, archives
and stuff you dload... (for god sakes, you dont need to scan .avi's or
generally media files) once you have dloaded them and that's it...

keep the software of the antivirus updated all the time and you will
never have a problem...
Choko
I had a problem with codecs too...I used the latest version of DivX, but then I got no sound. I downloaded the K-Lite Codec Pack, and I got sound, but the video was really jumpy.

Eventually, I customized the download of the K-Lite Codec Pack so that it only downloaded all the audio stuff (MP3, WMA, AC3, Ogg Vorbis), and watched it in WMP.

Of course, if you won't touch anything connotated with Kazaa with a 10-foot pole...I don't know what will work. My computer hasn't been acting any differently since then, but it might just be my computer.

If you have the K-Lite Codec already, you should uninstall it and just reinstall the audio stuff...it might have something to do with the choppy video.

Hope this helps!

(If someone knows something EVOOL about the K-Lite Codec I don't, please let me know.)
lu-chan
in defense of firewalls, ozy-- if you're sharing cable between a number of user's computers in a house, it can save you $$ from not having to lease multiple cable modems from your scroogey provider, without them being able to nose around what you may be doing with their one modem you actually are paying to use. just a thought.

i don't know about viruses with BT, but i can tell you that BT completely screwed up my computer when i installed it for windows. there's a bit on the BT site about your computer going all blue-screen-of-death if you don't have the right drivers, but personally i have no idea what happened.
CrazyInuyasha
Ah bittorrent is easy.. but why am I getting 0 kbs/s?

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Naishin_no_Miko
I finally figured out why I couldn't get BitTorrent to work (apparently, it's not set up to run with Mozilla, bah), so I have to download using IE, so that's no big deal. I'm not sure if you can get a virus from downloading on BT since I haven't tried to download with it yet (I was so frustrated last night that I gave up with BT and got 112 off Kazaalite, heh), but it IS possible to get a worm (trojan) with any sort of audio or video file (avi., divx, etc), and Norton doesn't pick those up (I know; we have the professional copy of Norton), so you need a separate Trojan scanner program to scan your videos (do so right before you open them), and if you do a lot of downloading like I do, you really should have one. It sounds like a worm was hiding in something you downloaded, and those don't affect your computer right away, so you wouldn't know until it's too late to do anything. Trust me on this; this computer crashed many, many times before we finally broke down and got a trojan scanner (you can find 30-day trial versions on the net).

And firewalls are for people running on a cable modem like me. You share the line with tons of other people, so it's pretty easy to get hacked and even get viruses from other people. If you configure them right, you should have no problems with them (I say should because if you have a crappy firewall like I used to have, it can be a pain in the ass to configure).
Starhackz
well its pretty easy to virus someone when u use bit torrent u open a port on ur computer and while ur uploading and downloading ur connected to people but the experimental version of bit can be able to get ur ip adress soo all they need do to is connect to your ip through the port that you use to download on bit when they are connected they can do whatever they want if they know how. so when they get in they could upload a virus and run it on ur computer without you knowing trojan whatever. but if thats the case they could have made their own trojan thus making it undetectable by any virus scanners.

Edit] Oh and you can put viruses into an avi and still make it work
Ozzy firewalls are important they arent useless anless ur have an extremely crappy one someone tryed hacking me script kiddy style but it can also trace where they live smile.gif if u have a good firewall. and sometimes it may tell you their phone etc adress city. but firewalls arent really anoyying after a few days of getting it working right all your settings should go in. If u dont have a firewall someone could get in in about 5 minutes if u got a firewall maybe hours a good firewall they wont get in.
SaNkOn-TeSsOu
Not to make anybody jealous...but I downloaded Episode 112 at 150kb/s and it uploaded at 100kb/s.....I have Cable Internet from Charter Pipeline......it rocks now...but last year some times it was slow as a fat bytch. LOL
Ionized
Uh....I don't know how you people think someone can just embed a virus into an .avi file or .mp3 file or whatever. The code actually has to be RUN, not read through a media player that wouldnt know what the heck it's looking at (oh....crazy code, aka a virus, I don't recognize this). EOF, or whatever. But the code is not actually run. That's why you don't ever hear of people getting virus's from mp3s of avi's or any type of media format. And also that's why you see .exe or .bat or any other executable program being transfered via email by people who want to give you virus's.

So stop scaring the users. Just by opening a port to download/upload does NOT leave yourself vulnerable. If that were true, the whole internet would be corrupted in about....5 seconds.
bakadeshi
Also, it sounds more like your windows install is just corrupted. You mentioned your computer attempted to restore a registry from backups? That's probably because the most current version is corrupted. And installs can go bad for a number of reasons: installing new software or codecs sometimes makes an already flaky registry explode :-/

What version of windows are you running? Do you have any other information? And please, tell me you make backups of important files :-/
kirika
Another thing, you don't need the latest DivX 5.05 to watch Inuyasha..
I've got 5.03 and it works perfectly. As long as the new features isn't used
in the encoding process it will work with older versions.

Just wanted to point that out. smile.gif

btw, it is possible to embed viruses into gif files..
Xepheus
For the solution to all viewing problems...

I've noticed there are always a couple questions that come up when ppl cant get their file to work... and their solutions are always the same;

1. "Video is Choppy"
I've had this problem before i upgraded my computer (i had a p2:300) and i know how it feels and how weird it is... but UNLESS I myself have encoded it extremely badly with a craptacular source and set it to a low framerate then this problem wont happen at all... as I'd like to think that I DO know what im doing. happy.gif
So why are u geting such choppiness? Well one reason would be ur codec it needs updating! Latest DivX codec 5.05 can be found at http//www.divx.com/divx
and latest XviD codec can be found at http://www.divx-digest.com/software/xvid.html
Another problem would be... well...ur computer is getting old!
Old computers do have problems with new codecs as i've seen and heard and it causes the choppiness u see cuz the cpu cant handle decoding the video as fast as it plays... hence u get a slowdown... or choppiness... ( hmm wonder if that is really a word! smile.gif ) To fix it? Well i've known myself of a couple "temporary" solutions. One is to use the divx player to watch ur video rather than wmp or anything else cuz the divx player is SIMPLE and requires much less resources than ur average wmp. Second, im sure it helps a bit but get some more ram... if that is possible, ur p2:300 or whatever runs on 133 ram which should be like 5$ for like 10 million mb of ram happy.gif;
Lastly, although its sad to see an old friend go... you gotta upgrade or buy a new computer! Its time to keep with the times people... now-a-days i think computers arent TOO pricey as they originally are... from what i've seen the core of a newer computer can cost as low as 200-300$ CDN the rest u can pull out of ur old computer wink.gif
But upgrading ur computer will almost guarantee that u'll have no more choppiness and hence everyone becomes happy smile.gif
Plus as new codecs start coming out... your old computer will have an even less chance of running them properly... so u gotta do it eventually ^^


2. "So i got a good computer but the file doesnt play"
Although we and many others have stated it time and time again, we even put up links and wrote it in HUGE letters, Inuyasha 107 and above requires DivX 5.05 and its amazing how many people go "oh but i have the newest divx" then we say "go download it again from here..." then its like "OH it works thanks!" ( which implies they didnt have the latest codec sleep.gif; )


3. Good now that we solved half the problems... the next one... "i have it (truly)instaled divx5.05 and it still doesnt work..."
Now the thing with transfers of files through the internet is that sometimes files get corrupted either from weird disconnects or from problems with ur computer or something along those lines...
Although im not sure if everyone noticed but those numbers in brackets in the file name... THOSE numbers CAN tell you whether ur file is corrupted or not. Its a very useful thing its called CRC numbers (cycle-redundancy-check) or somethin like that...
"How do u check those numbers?"
Well there many many programs out there that are made just to check files for corruption (and most of them a freeware)... i personally use "easy SFV" but anything else can be used... try searching for SFV or CRC stuff in google or downloads.com... as well if u use irc there are even scripts that give u the CRC of the file...
Now that u got that... u use ur prog and get a CRC value.. now u compare those set of numbers/letters to ones in brackets in the filename... if they are EXACTLY the same.. ur file is perfectly fine... else if even 1 character is different then its corrupted or incomplete or another...
two ways to fix this... either hop onto bittorrent again to see if it can be fixed/filled in.. else sorry to tell u but u gotta grab it again...

4. "I gots Divx5.05 + CRC values match and it still dont work"
Honestly i dont think we've ever had this problem brought up... but if it does well i dont know what else to tell u... except maybe theres something weird/wrong thats going on in ur computer. We cant help u with the problem as there could be many many many reasons for ur computer to be messed up =o

Well thats all for my huge blurb of help... hmm i dunno why but whenever i talk about this stuff i tend to write essays... sorry about that but hope this solves everyone's problems hmmm maybe i'll put this up in another forum as well as on our FAQ page...

Later!

-Xepheus
(Hey kirika glad of u to join us...)
Sshadow
Gomene Xeph...

I have DivX 5.02 and it still works.. wink.gif Go figure.. No update necessary as long as you donīt use the extras.. ;P

On topic.. If it doesnīt work for YOU .. Update your CODECS til the latest version..
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UFO9
QUOTE(bakadeshi @ Jun 11 2003, 09:03 PM)
What version of windows are you running?  Do you have any other information?  And please, tell me you make backups of important files :-/

I have windows XP professional. That umm.. a friend loaned me, hehe. My computer is really old though. I got it Christmas of my Senior year in highschool, and this fall I'll be a Junior in college. It used to have ME on it, but it totally screwed up my freshman year, so it got reformatted and I got XP. I've got like 512 mb or ram though, so I don't think that's a problem. As for stuff I've installed... I obviously downloaded the new DivX, but I doubt it was that, cuz I think it woulda given me a problem long ago, when 107 first came out, cuz I got it then. I also downloaded and installed eDonkey recently. I'm starting to blame that. It installed so much other crap, like ad programs and stuff. I uninstalled and deleted most of the extra junk, but I know there's still some stuff on there.

As for backups... uhh.... no :\ Luckily all my anime is on my other 2 harddrives, but all my schoolwork, the site I was making for my cousin, all my programs/games/pictures and all 10 or so gigs of MP3's are on the drive that has windows. I've found I can open most programs using the Run prompt in my task manager. I can run Winamp and listen to music, I can run Nero, though I haven't attemtped to burn anything yet. I can't run Media Player or DivX player though, they give me an error right away. I also can't run Norton to try and check for a virus, it closes itself. and I think I mentioned before that System Restore won't work.

I've tried booting into SafeMode, but nothing works there either, and I booted into the "Last settings that worked" mode or whatever, and things actually got worse. My screen turns black and white and flickers sometimes now, and there's like lines that scroll, and everything is all off and scratchy looking.

A couple of friends who go to school with me and major in Computer Science and Information Technology are thinking I might just need to reinstall Windows, or that possible my video card or the graphics card on my motherboard are messed up. Which Im also starting to think is possible. I played Ragnarok Online for a while, and when I first started, it would always crash my computer, because I think it couldn't handle all the graphics.

That's really all I can think of, unless you know of any other specific things I should look for.
Naishin_no_Miko
Getting a new graphics card sounds like a good thing to do. XP Pro runs very choppy video if your system has a cheaply-made graphics card installed (I know that personally). You might want to check your sound card as well because believe it or not, it can be a source of trouble.

And I guess I should've been a bit more specific on the virus talk. With regular viruses, they can be .exe or .zip files renamed as .avi or .mpeg (or whatever the case may be) to fool the person downloading. I've ran into these more times than I want to remember.

Trojan horses and worms are totally different from viruses, and they can be inserted into anything you download because they come from a person's computer that's already affected (and the person might not know or never know). And as someone said, they can be inserted into .gif files now (some people need a hobby other than creating this crap). That's why it's important to scan anything you download with both an antivirus program and a trojan scanner (because one won't pick up the other and vice versa). Unfortunately, a while back when I downloaded the Cowboy Bebop movie, it turned out that it had a trojan in it, and I didn't know until it was too late, so the blasted thing decided to play havoc with my registry. That was a painful 7 hours of reinstalling WinXP and every program. sad.gif

I'm not trying to confuse anyone. I just want to help. happy.gif
UFO9
QUOTE(Naishin_no_Miko @ Jun 12 2003, 01:13 PM)
Getting a new graphics card sounds like a good thing to do.  XP Pro runs very choppy video if your system has a cheaply-made graphics card installed (I know that personally).  You might want to check your sound card as well because believe it or not, it can be a source of trouble.

Unfortunately, a while back when I downloaded the Cowboy Bebop movie, it turned out that it had a trojan in it, and I didn't know until it was too late, so the blasted thing decided to play havoc with my registry.

I don't even have a sound card *sigh* So it can't be that. Ima look into my video card though.

And that registry thing sounds eerily similar to what my comp did. It said my registry was corrupt or had a problem and needed to be restored from a copy.

If I got a virus my opinion on humanity will drop even lower. People really DO need better hobbies. I'd like to find whoever started this virus crap and just beat the snot out of them. Grrr.

Did you have to reformat? Or just reinstall XP? Cuz I don't mind having to reinstall it and programs, it's just I don't want to lose all the stuff I have saved on there.
Ionized
QUOTE(Naishin_no_Miko @ Jun 12 2003, 03:13 PM)
Trojan horses and worms are totally different from viruses, and they can be inserted into anything you download because they come from a person's computer that's already affected (and the person might not know or never know).  And as someone said, they can be inserted into .gif files now (some people need a hobby other than creating this crap).  That's why it's important to scan anything you download with both an antivirus program and a trojan scanner (because one won't pick up the other and vice versa).  Unfortunately, a while back when I downloaded the Cowboy Bebop movie, it turned out that it had a trojan in it, and I didn't know until it was too late, so the blasted thing decided to play havoc with my registry.  That was a painful 7 hours of reinstalling WinXP and every program.  sad.gif

Well, until I see some documented proof of this, I really doubt that opening a .gif file or .avi file is going to corrupt your computer. I've never heard of this happening, and it doesn't make sense code-wise. If Windows Media Player tries to read a virus, it will come up with some error because it doesnt recognize the file. If someone has any links to actual proof of this, I'd be really interested in reading about it. Otherwise, it seems like it's basically all just rumors.

Around episode (what was it...107?) I couldnt playback the files with DivX 5.02, but 5.05 works great.
Xepheus
QUOTE(Sshadow @ Jun 12 2003, 03:35 PM)
Gomene Xeph...

I have DivX 5.02 and it still works.. wink.gif Go figure.. No update necessary as long as you donīt use the extras.. ;P

On topic.. If it doesnīt work for YOU .. Update your CODECS til the latest version..
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Theoretically you need to get divx5.05 in order to watch divx5.05 encoded stuff!
unless play it in divx player or by some miracle u can get it to play without happy.gif

-Xepheus
JazzeroKi
UFO9 There may be a problem with your copy of windows xp as well. The professional version key that many hackers pass around will not allow you to update windows xp, and I've found win xp pro works a lot better with the updates.

And for everyone else who's been hearing that media files can carry viruses. AVI, or MP3's can quite possibly carry viruses, and I have heard of such a thing happening. I have never seen it myself or seen any such thing on any antivirus site, and I've dealt with thousands of mp3's and videos of all types from the most elicite of places imaginable and have never seen such a virus. While such a virus could exist, they are so rare if they do exist that I wouldn't even worry about them.

IF anyone does find any information or names of any viruses that can infect, gifs, avi's, mp3's, or any other kind of media file I would be greatly interested. Please leave me a message or post something in the forum about what you found and hopefully a site that has the information about such a virus.

Thanks.
Sshadow
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Theoretically you need to get divx5.05 in order to watch divx5.05 encoded stuff!
unless play it in divx player or by some miracle u can get it to play without happy.gif

-Xepheus


Or perhaps use GlobalDivX player and just use the basic codecs installed.. tongue.gif
UFO9
QUOTE(bakadeshi @ Jun 11 2003, 09:03 PM)
And please, tell me you make backups of important files :-/

Sorry to bring up an old, and off, topic again, but Bakadeshi, you mentioned backups, so I thought maybe you could answer this. I reinstalled Windows, and things are working again, sort of, but it's not giving me access to my files that had been saved on my previous User account. It says access denied. I found though, that certain things WILL acknowledge it, such as, dun dun dun, System Backup. So I'm backing it all up now, and I've tested it, and restoring it to a different place than it's original location lets me get to the stuff.

Ok, my actual question is (and it's probably stupid), I have all these backup files (.bkf files to be precise) now. If I burn them to a cd, and then reformat my computer (poor thing needs it) and reinstall Windows again, will it let me use those backup files and restore everything? Aka, will I have all my MP3's and images and schoolwork and program setup files and stuff? Please let me know. I'm so hopefuly that I finally found a loophole in my computer's evil logic, but I don't want to go and reformat just to find out I was wrong.

If anyone else knows, please tell me, this is directed at Bakadeshi since she mentioned it, but anyone who knows can contribute.
kirika
QUOTE(Xepheus @ Jun 13 2003, 05:50 AM)
Theoretically you need to get divx5.05 in order to watch divx5.05 encoded stuff!
unless play it in divx player or by some miracle u can get it to play without happy.gif

-Xepheus

Even if you encode the video in DivX 5.05,
if you do not use the extras it will show up with DivX 5.02.

DivX 5.05 just fixes some bugs, and 5.04 did come up with some new stuff.

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