Alternate title: "How the heck is Kagome still in Junior High School??"

Okay... first off, this isn't a topic about how long the series has been running, because that's already obvious. The manga started in late 1996, and the anime in 2000 (er... I think it was 2000).

What I'm talking about is how much time has actually gone by in the series--i.e. just how long has Kagome been running around in the past with Inuyasha and co. searching for Shikon shards and the chance to kick Naraku's butt? Sometimes it seems like forever, and you'd certainly think it would have been at least a year (or getting close to that)... yet to the best of my knowledge, Kagome is still 15, which suggests otherwise.

Anyone have any guesses? Does anyone actually know when in "Inuyasha time" the show actually began (in other words, what day or even what season Kagome's birthday is)? The anime had at least one one filler episode (101) that had snow in it, so winter has probably hit at least once... but then again, they could have just been in a particularly cold area, for all I know. ::shrug::

We've seen Kagome return home anywhere from five to ten times in the manga (I'm not keeping track), and about the same in the anime, though the anime tends to drag those visits out longer, and included at least one visit home that was completely filler-ized. But obviously we haven't seen every single time she's gone back, and we don't know how long it is between average visits either, so this isn't exactly an ideal way of keeping track of things.

Neither is Inuyasha's human transformation during the new moon... we've only seen it happen four times (I think), but obviously things have been going on for more than four or five months, so we're not seeing all of his transformations, either. Which is a shame, to say the least (it could have been so easy... ::sigh::). Ah, well... just when was the last time we saw it happen naturally, anyway? We haven't had a new moon incident in forever.

If I had to make a guess based on what I know (which, as you can see, is pretty much... nothing), I'd say it's been close to a year. Despite the annoying little factors of Kagome's age and school situation. But it's definitely something I've been wondering about.

Semi off-topic, but you brought it up in your post and the events of tonight made me wonder...

What happens to Inuyasha during a lunar eclipse? Does he turn human for, like, ten minutes? Lunar eclipses technically take place during full moons, I know, and I guess the whole thing might have to do with the position of the moon with relation to the earth rather than moonlight itself, but... eh, just wondering.

Anyway, the anime and manga have never really gotten into holidays, either. It's never been Christmas, Valentine's Day, Golden Week, or any of those other holidays that anime tends to play up on. If that's the case, then the entirety of the show must take place in summer... which makes me wonder why Kagome's even in school in the first place ^_^*.

The leaves on the trees never change, so it's not fall. They've also never gotten hit with any typhoons, which are a common early fall event. But summer's the rainy season, which they don't get much of either. Movie 1 had cherry blossoms, which come out May-ish.

So... maybe since Kagome fell throught the well, she created a temporal paradox in the weather so that it does not change until she finishes whatever she needs to do. :P

I always thought Inuyasha's human transformation was more of a "happens once a month and just happens to coincide with the new moon" thing than something actually connected to the actual phases of the moon... but then again, that would make it a bit odd how he conveniently changes exactly when the sun sets and changes back again exactly at sunrise. (I mean, it's perfectly timed... you could set your watch to it.) So now I'm not so sure... hmm.

You know, Takahashi should do a storyline with a lunar eclipse.

And it just occurred to me that the IY calendars have pictures of the gang during all four seasons. Would one consider those canon, or even semi-canon? Doubtful... but it's a thought.

Apparently seven years in human time is something like a year in Inuyasha time. XD

We've had a few things like Jii-chan's birthday, although that was from a filler, and all that was mentioned was that it happened. They never actually showed how long it had been since then or anything.

The only thing I really go by is the Inuyasha transformations. Three times? Four times? So it's been at LEAST four months, although I doubt they've shown every single time he's changed.

Kagome never mentions her age again, other than the first day of the series. Heh-heh.

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And I've always wondered about Inuyasha's transformations, too. First day of the new moon. Who knows, maybe his body just senses when it's the time of the new moon and the youki itself becomes sensitive to sunset and sunrise.

"It's a Takahashi thing. I doubt she worries about the technicalities, and neither should you."

So many thoughts are being bringed up with this topic. o_O



Takahashi tends to not give us much information about the characters,
it was the same with Ranma½, no one ever knew their birtdays,
they allways stayed 16 even tho they had summer vacations 10 times...
About the snow episode, didn't they say it was in the mountains...?
I'm often in the mountains in the summer, the tmperature... 34 ©,
and I can still see lots of snow on the mountains all around me.
So I guess it is pretty logical for snow in the summer (I've seen hail).



Don't worry, no one can keep track of her going home to the present,
as sometimes we don't even get to see it, and sometimes she returns
(to Sengoku Jidai) all of a sudden. o_O I find it quite annoying actually.
But it seems as if 3 days is the amount of time she SAYS she'll be home,
even tho Inuyasha often comes and gets her on the second day or sumthin...



Takahashi could do so many things with the new moon... and I bet she will,
sometime in the end of the manga I bet she's gonna include his transformation.
About this WHEN that Patches brought up, it is the sun that changes him back,
and it IS allways perfectly timed. And it looks very cool and 1337 (rant)...

But allright... the timeline you say, eh?
If we look at the beginning of the manga, it really looks like summer,
but then Kagome goes to take a bath in that lake, and she says it's cold,
and you can clearly see leaves blowing in the wind - AUTUMN!? o_O what the??
How can it be autumn there? This confuses me a lot (tho I may be wrong),
so it's almost impossible to set a timeline... as summer does NOT follow fall.

So many thoughts are being 'brought' up with this topic.

Hehe...

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Just an interesting note on the weather situation. I heard once that takahashi drew the seasons the same as were actually going on outside...no thought to plot consistency or anything.

I think it just goes back to she doesn't worry and neither should you. Writers (or manga-ka's whatever) write about what's important to them. Timeline etc. is obviously not important to Takahashi.

Just my thoughts.

I didn't really want to answer to this at all,
BUT I wrote that thing right after I got out of bed,
so please give me some more credits
that I actually recalled the english language.

yea maybe kagome is in some sort of different time like in the C.S. Lewis books the lion the prince and the wardrobe. where time in one places does not have to be as fast or as slow as another.

and second it is a cartoon so unless you want to say that bart simpson is 22 years old you shouldnt worry about ;-)

i like the first answer better though its more fun to think about.

Then again who can say just how much time as actually passed there? I mean it's not like we are given dates of when Kagome comes back. And obviously there's very little chance of her finding a calendar to tell us.

i dont know.. i cant recall right now but didnt kagome like go to the next grade in the beginning of one of the seasons. i dont remember maybe i was just watching a bad traslation but i think she went into a grade.
oh well

but yea i asssume atleast one year has gone by.

1 year and 4 months have gone by in the series.

How do I know? Heh.. Subtle clues and lots of Inuyasha-ing for me. hehe..

You going to tell us what those clues were or just leave us hanging?

I thought I remembers snow in something, so that means that atleast it went from spring to winter... Unless I'm thinking of the first movie, in which, wasn't TIME messed up anyway, due to the events of the movie... Woulda say what they were, but I dont want to get into spoilers.

Time is a funny thing. I mean let's take our own portion of reality. These days it take around 30-40 light years to reach anything within interest. For those that forget how many miles that is, we are talking 186,000 miles per second. Per second folks. Not hours. Not minutes. Per SECOND. Now as some of you familiar with relativity know, the faster you go getting closer to the speed of light, the slower percieved time is. Unfortunately while it might be slower for you, it still a long time between each one since the rest of us are still going at our regular speed. So while the one going at that speed will not have aged much, the rest of us will have aged considerable. (Given of course various distances).

I guess my point here is that for all we know, we (the people out here) are going at the speed of light in schedule with that of Kagome's world. Or something similiar. In any case time is all pretty relative. Especially on cartoons and of course for Kagome.

*takes the joint out of his mouth and nods*
Right on, brothah.

I think Expertgamers approximatly correct, though.

oh quit talking out of you butt physics and relitivity have nothing to do with inuyasha

There is absolutely nothing in Inuyasha that gives any indication of how long its been. Kagome may still be in middle school, her friends may still be in middle school, or she might be in high school already. No one knows.

In real life, Japanese high school starts in the tenth grade. Kids are about 16 when they enter high school. The only time an age is ever mentioned in canon material is at the beginning. That's Kagome being 15. In the anime, she mentions still being a junior high girl. So. We can make conclusions that she's either never been able to graduate into high school (who knows, with her poor attendance, it might happen... ), but given that her three friends are also still in the same school with her, I'd think probably not unless they were all bad students who needed to be held back, too. So has it been less than a year?

The great Takahashi only knows.

Then there's Inuyasha's monthly changes. There are even times when a new moon occurs twice in a month, so does that mean he changes twice in one month? Or.... what? Something technical that never gets mentioned and is probably something we don't need to really concern ourselves over.

i new moon doesnt happen every month it happens like every 23 days so some months may have two new moons or two full moons. if a month has two full moons the second one is called a blue moon and you can make a wish on it.

Nightfall, what is your sig pic from. That is really badass.

Wizard's of the Coast's lastest Dungeons and Dragons book: The Draconomicion.

It's a Dragon graveyard. (Yes I like Dragons. )

Anyway, physics and relativity have a LOT to do with Inuyasha. Sure magic is odd and unpredictible, but so far gravity is still a factor, as is time itself. So seems to me astrophysics along with other types of physics have a LOT to do with Inuyasha.

When they said that Inuyasha has the moon thing once a month, it sounds like he has a period every month !

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When they said that Inuyasha has the moon thing once a month, it sounds like he has a period every month  !

thats been my thought too when he says oh no it is that time of the month again
makes me giggle inside

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Anyway, physics and relativity have a LOT to do with Inuyasha. Sure magic is odd and unpredictible, but so far gravity is still a factor, as is time itself. So seems to me astrophysics along with other types of physics have a LOT to do with Inuyasha.

ah yes gravity but people really do fly way to offten to say that gravity is still in its full likness. i think only humans are completely detained by gravity. or maybe all the demons have very small mass g=Gmm/r² so as the monster's mass goes to zero the gravitational attaraction goes to zero.

hurray a limit

and so thats why inuyasha can jump high and all those dragons can fly. they have no mass. and if a human were to run up to one and breath they would win hurray.

and so that is why physics and inuyasha dont mix very well

lol, just imagine it. Naraku or Sesshoumaru defeated by a sneeze...
Shippou could take them on himself then.

Or perhaps because of demonic leg strength, they are able to accomplish fairly high lift and thus arc their way into flying.

Also it could be they can adjust their mass at will.

I call it "Free Body Inu".


That would have to be the case. I mean, take Sesshoumaru. He turns into a giant dog that is, by all appearances, very heavy. Where'd all that extra mass come from? Or maybe he's just really dense in his human form and doesn't show it (if that's the case, better not get him in the water. He'd sink like lead).

i've noticed 1 snow, 2 rain, and no windy episodes. As for Kagome's time, it has snowed once.

Nice and sunny. Just the way i like my weather.


And why did Kagome only wear short sleeves once?

Perhaps all the magic does is adjust one's mass and gravity surrounding that body. Thus explaining not only shapechanging but also how Kagome can get Inuyasha to sit so much.

Btw nice pic Patches.

oh patches i love it. only because i am in dynamics and that is exactly what we are doing but dont forget the moment arm that causes inuyasha's face to go down first aparently but yea put it in vector notation and you got a great application of physics

btw i was thinking that perhaps the sit command increases inuyasha's mass a great amount. so yea causes his gravitational attraction to increase... hmmm maybe he will draw kagome closer that way too.


and to rebuttle the really strong legs thing. the F up is the F down so if you jump up really high you shouldnt be able to hover. it will take the same amount of time to go up as it will to come down. :-)

ok enough physics im sick of it. :-P

i just spent my day off doing 8 hours of math yucky yucky please send your sympathy

Thanks. I just hope it doesn't go over too many people's heads. I showed it to a friend back home and she didn't get it, but I don't think she's ever taken a Physics course, either.

That brings up another question: How does Miroku's Kazaana work? Is it a vaccuum or a gravity well? Considering the name of it has to do with "wind", that sort of implies a vaccuum, meaning that the air pressure inside his hand is significantly less than that of his surroundings. However, it also compresses large objects, which is something more akin to the nature of a gravity well (and that Kagome likened it to a black hole when she first saw it).

Or maybe it's just a really powerful magnet.

Miroku: "I wish it was a chick magnet."

ahh yes
well this ties into worm holes
it just happens that he has one in his hand which leads to an alternate universe.

as far as how he is able to move this worm hole and keep it stable.
well that is due to the: "it was written in the script" therom which applies to all show and movies inwhich anything is able to happen if you divide by zero a few times.

( :-P hope no math majors out there. they wouldnt like me)

and remember pi will always equal e^1 so pi=e=3 nice fact

btw patches can i have that picture for my sig?
i really like it

Miroku is undeniably aware of the fact that the integral of e to the x power is equal to the funtion of u to the n power.

That's where Inuyasha and Calculus tie together.

(Any math majors in here? Yay? Nay?)

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Anyway.



"Dammit, Inuyasha, I'm a JUNIOR HIGH STUDENT, not a physics equation!"





PS - Patchness, I literally fell outta my chair when I saw that pic. XD

F (Patches Joke) = Kuro's mass x gravity x extra downward force of too much Pepsi. XD = THUD!!

I learned that joke from my dad. hehehe

^_^* Sure, I don't mind.


Well, we all know that Miroku knows the Right-Hand Rule.

Miroku: "Honestly, Sango, I was just checking the gradient of your butt!"

hahahaha
oh man this is great
+C
i never know physics cool be soo much fun

and we oh it all to the great inuyasha...
thanks alot guys that raised my spirits

:-)


i just love looking for life forms

anywho back to the topic ;-) three months and thats my final answer this is possible due the the great eye in the sky

yea muti varible. hurray----> next we will be taking the differental equation of the.... wait a minet there is no practical purpose for differental equations silly me that joke was ruined

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I'm definitely loving all these weird ideas for using physics and black holes. Anyway this is some good stuff.

ITS amazing how twisted an educated mind can be

back to homework you guys are way to distracting

Nah. Homework can be done later. Discussing Inuyasha physics is like pure fun.

Hate to veer on-topic, but I just got here.


I think Inuyasha was becoming human during new moons roughly every five volumes of the manga for a while there. (volumes 5, 9, 16, 21) The new moon in volume 9 happened just before they met Sango. The next new moon at the end of volume 16 was the first time Sango had seen Inuyasha become human, so we can assume there weren't any new moons in between.

RT hasn't shown any new moons since vol 21, but if we follow that pattern, it's been about six months in the anime and almost seven months in the manga.

Yes, I'm taking this way too seriously.

Love seeing Kagome and Inuyasha on the Enterprise, BTW!

ROFL Kuro XD Is it just me, or are the guys checking out Kag's butt?
And that pic from you Patches! XD *THUD* gaaahh... an early thud!
I wish I had photoshop skills! or... *weird ideas* maybe not... >_>

hmm i think i can see what you mean

data isnt distracted though

looks like miroku has had his effect

Yes but that's why I like you Honeybee. You are serious when necessary.

OMG! Star Trek! heheheheh!

You know what, you are sooo sick... introducing math and physics into Inuyasha for this poor English/Journalism major.

I saw all those equations and stuff... and I did one of these:

heheh.

Yeah math is a lot of fun, and atleast one of those equations atleast looked familiar to me.

But anyways maybe to steer this topic back to what it's about. I thought well Kagome may still be in Junior high after 7 years but Bart Simpson is going on his 15th year in the fourth grade.

Yeah but I think Bart's reason for being in the fourth grade are FAR more valid.

deleted my input here i didnt like it too much

I just noticed something, when reading Ranma vol. 23,
when they're in the Horaisan Mountain figting Herb,
it seems like just 3 days or something (it really really does),
and all of a sudden Akane says this:
Akane: "How many weeks has it been without contact...?"
Um, she's talking about contact between her and Ranma,
since Ranma left on his own together with Mousee and Ryouga. :P
anyways, here we have something Takahashi tends to do,
TRICK US, she tricks us when it comes to time,
I'm starting to think that she invented the phrase:

"Time is relevant" (ok, did I get that right?)

I think you mean "time is relative". It is, indeed, relevant at least to most people, but according to Einstein's second fundamental postulate of special relativity, light moves at the same speed relative to all observers. From this follows time dilation which basically means that the faster you move, the slower the time seems to be around you. From this we can deduce that people in Inuyasha have very high velocities when they travel, because they think they have been on the road many weeks when in fact it's been only few days. This also explains the seemingly short distances between places: they are far apart, the speed of travers is just very high.

If you think what I just wrote made no sense whatsoever, you're probably right... It's 2:40 am here, I should be sleeping but thanks to number of factors which I'm not listing here, I am not.

Oh, I have just started watching this series. 8 eps watched...over 120 to go. O_o

contraversal quote--> eh what did einstien know he flunked english and math when he was a kid


therefore he could never actually acomplish working theroms in later life.
besides there is no way for him to predect anime ;-)

Yes, I know that he flunked those, but it didn't stop him to create those groundbreaking theries that he did...in his own language! And it was physics, not math!

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Okay, I know you were just kidding...maybe I should stop this scientific babble...

Just one more thing. Pengin9, I saw your sig a while back, and I laughed a minute straight. Damn that is funny!